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Posted 27 May 2009 - 05:59 PM
Frustrating experience tonight.
For the first frame and a half of my league match, I was on great form.
Then suddenly my game went south and I was next to useless.
Fortunately for me, on this occasion it looked like my good performance had mentally broken my opponent, and despite my mistakes he didn't pull it together to capitalise.
But I'm left with 2 questions:
- Why did my game suddenly collapse?
- When I realised that it had gone, how could I have corrected things and got back on track?
For the first frame and a half of my league match, I was on great form.
Then suddenly my game went south and I was next to useless.
Fortunately for me, on this occasion it looked like my good performance had mentally broken my opponent, and despite my mistakes he didn't pull it together to capitalise.
But I'm left with 2 questions:
- Why did my game suddenly collapse?
- When I realised that it had gone, how could I have corrected things and got back on track?
#2
Posted 27 May 2009 - 06:49 PM
My game often deteriorates (suddenly) when I realize that my opponent has realized that he should be toast. I just stop playing at my level and coast. I have found it is exceedingly hard to come back from coasting and get back into form and shoot to my capabilities. In effect, I have decided to just play well enough to beat the person at the table--that is I play down to his level. This leads inevitably to disaster.
#3
Posted 27 May 2009 - 08:01 PM
MitchAlsup, on May 27 2009, 07:49 PM, said:
My game often deteriorates (suddenly) when I realize that my opponent has realized that he should be toast. I just stop playing at my level and coast. I have found it is exceedingly hard to come back from coasting and get back into form and shoot to my capabilities. In effect, I have decided to just play well enough to beat the person at the table--that is I play down to his level. This leads inevitably to disaster.
Precisley, you have answered your own question and you already know the answer to it. It is easy to play to anothers level. They mostly drag you down to theirs. Play bums on the block, you will always be a bum on the block. You have to be like Tiger Woods, dont win, lap the field. Never coast. if its a race to 6, try and win 6-0. Bury the bum. No mercy, you need my killer instinct and attitude. If I am playing my granny, I want to bury the old broad so she will never want to ever play me again.
Go into the bathroom, let me see your war face, go grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, look real scary, this is fookin war, it win or die, take it more serious. Forget being mister nice guy.
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24. I have trouble dealing with negative self-talk (thoughts).
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Scoring
Section 1, questions 1-6 deal with "Rebound ability," or your skill at mentally bouncing back from setbacks and mistakes. Mental toughness depends on your ability to quickly leave your mistakes and failure behind you. Hanging onto your mistakes will get you into big trouble, performance-wise. Athletes, who dwell on their mistakes while the competition continues, end up making more. Score 1 point for each of the following answers:
1. F
2. F
3. T
4. F
5. F
6. T
Section 2, questions 7-12 deal with the ability to handle pressure. Without the ability to stay calm in the clutch, an athlete will always underachieve. Peak performance demands that you are relaxed once the performance begins. While a little nervousness is critical for getting "up" for a game/match/race and performing at your best, ("good nervousness") too much nerves ("bad nervousness") will tighten your muscles and send your performance down the tubes. Score 1 point for each of the following answers:
7. T
8. F
9. F
10. F
11. F
12. F
Section 3, questions 13-18 deal with your concentration ability. In every sport, your ability to focus on what's important and block out everything else is one of the primary keys to performance excellence. Poor concentration is the major reason why athletes choke and get stuck in performance slumps. Getting psyched out or intimidated is a direct result of concentrating on the wrong things. Score 1 point for each of the following answers:
13. F
14. F
15. F
16. F
17. T
18. F
Section 4, questions 19-24 deal with your level of confidence and the factors that affect confidence. One characteristic of the mentally tough athlete is he/she possesses a confidence level that seems to be unshaken by setbacks and failures. Under the pressure of competition, low confidence will neutralize natural ability, hard work and talent. Similarly, high confidence will enhance an athlete's training and God given talents, lifting their performance to the next level. Score 1 point for each of the following answers:
19. T
20. F
21. T
22. T
23. F
24. F
Section 5, questions 25-30 deal with motivation. Motivation is the fuel that will drive your training to a successful completion and the accomplishment of your goals. Without adequate motivation athletes get stuck having "permanent potential." Without motivation you won't put in the work necessary to become a winner. Your motivation allows you to pick yourself up after a setback and keep going. Score 1 point for each of the following answers:
25. T
26. T
27. T
28. F
29. T
30. T
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Interpretation
A score of 6 in any one of the five sections indicates a special strength in that area. A 5 indicates solid skill, and 4 of less highlights that particular area as a mental weakness that needs to be addressed.
For example a "6" in "rebound ability" indicates consistent ability to bounce back quickly from mistakes, failures and losses. A score of "2" or "3" in section #2, handling competitive pressure, indicates the need for arousal control/relaxation training. Low scores in each section highlight problem areas. These "mental weaknesses" should then form mental training goals for you to help raise your overall performance to the next level.
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#4
Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:35 PM
I did the quiz and it told me my rebound-ability is poor.
It could have been part of the problem last night - I hit a slump and couldn't rectify it.
How do I improve this?
I suspect part is concentration. When I make a mistake I think about it for too long and it stops me slipping back into the zone.
Best way to deal with mistakes - forget and move on?
It could have been part of the problem last night - I hit a slump and couldn't rectify it.
How do I improve this?
I suspect part is concentration. When I make a mistake I think about it for too long and it stops me slipping back into the zone.
Best way to deal with mistakes - forget and move on?
#5
Posted 28 May 2009 - 07:49 PM
Pin, on May 28 2009, 06:35 PM, said:
I did the quiz and it told me my rebound-ability is poor.
It could have been part of the problem last night - I hit a slump and couldn't rectify it.
How do I improve this?
I suspect part is concentration. When I make a mistake I think about it for too long and it stops me slipping back into the zone.
Best way to deal with mistakes - forget and move on?
It could have been part of the problem last night - I hit a slump and couldn't rectify it.
How do I improve this?
I suspect part is concentration. When I make a mistake I think about it for too long and it stops me slipping back into the zone.
Best way to deal with mistakes - forget and move on?
No, a constructive obit is good, to undertstand what the mistakes were, with no recriminations. Then establish a plan, to correct them, or to work on the shots you miss. Turn weakness, into a strength.
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#7
Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:47 PM
Pin, on May 30 2009, 02:26 PM, said:
Presumably this takes place after the match?
During the match, to seek to play your best for the rest of the session, what's the approach?
During the match, to seek to play your best for the rest of the session, what's the approach?
one single thought, Kill.................Beat that fookers dick into the dirt.
You must be like Genghis Kahn: aggressive, organized, flexible,- ruthless and you take no prisoners.
You go out and attack, and do it to the other guy first, before you allow him to do it to you.
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#8
Posted 04 June 2009 - 10:46 PM
I have always had that same problem of playing down to my opponents level, just good enough to win, but often ends badly. That generally only happens to me when I am playing friends and family. In competition, I generally overcome this and play sharp when I am on, or hit and miss if I am having an off night, but this has more to do with me and not my opponent.
First time I ever ran out an 8 ball rack was a kid in high school, a year older, who was a real ass. I bet him 10 bucks on the game and a dollar a ball. Brought him to my home table in our basement. Lagged for break, won, made a stripe on the break, ran out on him. Quick $17 dollars and he never touched a ball after the lag. I wanted him bad and there was no playing down to his level. I had an axe to grind and that gave me an edge.
When I play with friends, I think I just want to sneak out a win and not drive them into the ground and do not have that edge and it affects my play. I definitely come down or (play up) to their level. Put me in a money game or just a game where I want to make a point, and I mostly bring my A game and if I lose I know I did my best. I just don't always turn that on.
First time I ever ran out an 8 ball rack was a kid in high school, a year older, who was a real ass. I bet him 10 bucks on the game and a dollar a ball. Brought him to my home table in our basement. Lagged for break, won, made a stripe on the break, ran out on him. Quick $17 dollars and he never touched a ball after the lag. I wanted him bad and there was no playing down to his level. I had an axe to grind and that gave me an edge.
When I play with friends, I think I just want to sneak out a win and not drive them into the ground and do not have that edge and it affects my play. I definitely come down or (play up) to their level. Put me in a money game or just a game where I want to make a point, and I mostly bring my A game and if I lose I know I did my best. I just don't always turn that on.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 04:55 PM
If I were thinking in life terms, I would put forward the view that people will tend to default to following the behavious patterns they are presented with unless they have a clear, important, understanding of what they want to be instead.
I think that probably applies to pool too - people often like to fit in, and will move in the direction of the intensity of their opponent.
Clearly on a rational level we all want to play well.
But I don't think we take it deeply enough.
I think we need to deply understand the level we want to play at - what it feels like, the precision, ease and grace of the movement, the attention to detail and the impeccable consistency.
And I think we have to really want to achieve that state too, deep down as part of the joy of the game.
I don't think I've given enough thought to what that really means for me to target that, instead of drifting by default towards the table average.
I think that probably applies to pool too - people often like to fit in, and will move in the direction of the intensity of their opponent.
Clearly on a rational level we all want to play well.
But I don't think we take it deeply enough.
I think we need to deply understand the level we want to play at - what it feels like, the precision, ease and grace of the movement, the attention to detail and the impeccable consistency.
And I think we have to really want to achieve that state too, deep down as part of the joy of the game.
I don't think I've given enough thought to what that really means for me to target that, instead of drifting by default towards the table average.
#10
Posted 05 June 2009 - 06:20 PM
I just want to terminate you. Beat on you like your my Mexican rented mule. No Mercy. I take no prisioners. When you play me, you just met Attila the Hun. Mister nice guy goes on hold, until I drop you like a bad habit. Then I will buy you a drink and be nice to you.
"Fast Larry" Guninger
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