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  Posted 15 November 2008 - 12:42 PM

GRIP HOW TO HOLD THE CUE

4 pages, 6-21-99, rev 3-23-05, 10-28-06, 11-15-08, CR, Fast Larry Guninger all rights reserved. Published in DC, bpn, czm, upp, ppt, flp, rsb, btt.

Originally posted by Dakota Cues
Larry,

Here's a question on Grip.

I remember you talking about a new grip you were working on (probably years ago) where you had all your fingers on the cue, but still held the cue lightly. There was also something about using your pinkie as a rudder.

Can you elaborate on that grip, and/or your current grip technique if it's different from that one?

Thanks!

Yes, I think players should experiment with different fingers on the cue to find out what works for them best. I do use several different holds to achieve different shots. I played most of my career with the Hoppe tea cup having just the thumb and index finger on the cue and still make some shots using that today. On some I hold with just the index finger, others the first two, some all four or five. I wont use the word grip, because I do not grip the cue, I very lightly hold it, my finger tips lightly just ride on it with a velvet touch. Any one who becomes my student is forbidden to ever use the word grip ever again. They must call it the hold. Mentally they must now envision is light delicate hold and not some death grip where the saw dust is falling between their fingers like I see some players doing.

The hold I described was having two dominate fingers, the first finger, index and the last small pinky, they hold the cue with equal pressure and balance each other while the bird finger just rides and the ring finger hangs free. Those two fingers seem to balance each other and remove the twist from the stroke. You can do the same thing with the bird and little finger and the other two rides free. My mental concept of this is the out rigger canoe you see in the south pacific, one keeps the other in balance.

Mosconi taught, light is best, lighter is better. You cannot hold the cue too lightly. You want to develop the extreme soft touch and feel of a subway Hong Kong pickpocket. This can be very effective playing Artistic trick shots but for playing standard pool I think you are better off having a more solid and firmer hold.

Q: Everyone I see and everything I have been taught says use one grip on the cue. You are saying to use different grips, is that correct? Can you elaborate on that please, I am confused.

A: This is how pool is taught wrong. The guys writing these books can’t run 3 friggen balls. They write there is only one way to draw the ball, I teach 17 different ways. One way to do this or that. I teach no two shots are ever the same so every shot requires a different technique.
Yes many of your techniques will be the same, but never be held to just one way to do a thing or how to make a shot. There are many ways to skin a cat. This is where the BCA instructors bury those selves and their students is teaching only one way. It is easy to train a new instructor that way.
And it’s easy for that beginner teacher to teach beginners also, keep it simple stupid. If your teacher is doing that, you have a beginner teaching you. Go find a higher level teacher that has a broad knowledge of the game. Find a teacher who can play, if he can, he will understand this. If he can’t run 3 friggen balls, he will not.

In a lesson, I show the student the grips and how they evolved, the Hoppe index finger on the cue, then Greenleaf adds a 2nd one, the bird, then Mosconi adds 3, the ring, then Mizerak adds all 4. All of those won world championships, which proves you can use just about any grip and make it work.

Yes I hold the cue with different holds and with different fingers to produce different shots. On my jump cue and shot, I hold it with thumb and index finger and just throw the cue at the cue ball and let the tip bounce off of it.

Le Masse, I hold the cue in the European fashion, not in the American fashion like you see Gerni and Masse do. I have all four finger tips just riding on the outside of the masse cue and some delicate shots and I use the Rojas fork on power shots.

On my playing cue, if I want to cinch a long hard shot all my fingers are on the cue, if I want to hit a big stroke shot, I then take fingers off, I might use 1-2 or 3, and it depends. It's hard to describe, you need to get into the pool school or catch a clinic and see it live, then and only then will you be able to see where these fingers go and why. This lesson needs to be live and one on one for it to work. Some even use the webbing of the palm between the index and thumb as their primary hold. You can play this way with all the fingers off the cue; it’s amazing what you can do with this hold. Once you learn this, you put the fingers back on the cue, let them ride lightly and let the web do it all. So many different ways this can be done.

HOLD It must always be the same

On most standard shots and follows and there are of course exceptions to this, you must hold the cue super light and never increase or decrease that hold pressure. That may sound easy to do but you will find you are not doing that now and this is extremely hard not only to do but to do it consistently. This is very important for the follow shots.

If you are able to do this you impart more English and power on the Cue Ball. If you don’t you slide offs the ball and you allow the cue to twist imparting unwanted extra English or the dreaded miss cue. You can grip too tight at impact and kill all the action on the ball.

You must endeavor to train your self to hold the cue firm but light at the same time so on impact nothing moves or twists. You must have the same light but firm hold in your warm up strokes, in your back swing, at impact and beyond, the hold pressure may not change. I work real hard to have my thumb and my index finger both having the main hold and pressure and they both must have exact equal hold. The rest of the fingers just ride along doing little but adding stability to the shot and helping to prevent twist on impact. For some the dominate finger is the bird with the index doing nothing but riding along. Others hold the cue in the webbing between the thumb and index finger.

Perfect this and watch your cue ball begin to dance on a string for you. On the draw you get the best action with a big cock and flick into the shot, or a whip action.

Mosconi said light is best, lighter is better, you can’t hold the cue too light. This was one of the two great secrets he said he got from Greenleaf that made him a champion. That is all you need to know and that should be the end of this article. If you want the cue to come alive and the cue ball to dance and juice then you can’t do that if you are locked down on it with a death grip.

We first never call this the grip, because we never grip it, we very lightly hold it; actually allow it to virtually ride on our fingers. You can’t believe how lightly I hold the cue. At any time during my strokes you can come up behind me grab the butt and pull the cue out clean because I am not holding on to it, my fingers are lightly riding on it.

What ever your grip pressure is now, cut it in half, then cut it in half again and you should be right on the mark. Most of you are choking the life out of the cue. Most of your draw shots stink because of too tight of a grip and not enough wrist flick and action into the ball.

Imagine your cue is now the neck of a very small and delicate finch. You must hold the little birdies neck very lightly or you will break his neck and do him in. At any time during your strokes, during your back swing and on your final forward swing you never increase grip pressure and choke da little birdie. You maintain the same light hold pressure at all times. There are some exceptions to this which is on the draw and some other shots where I actually grab and squeeze at impact but on most normal shots, don’t choke the little bird is the mental thought you need to maintain.

You will be amazed at the extra English and the juice and action you now get from your cue ball. Your follows will have much more force and power. You will never see a Philippine with a death grip on a cue. They have the cue almost flopping around in their hand they are holding it so light.

Most of my grip pressure now is not in the fingers but in the webbing between the thumb and the index finger.

Here is a training drill for you to do, cue ball one diamond off of the head rail and place an object ball one diamond or foot in front of the cue ball. Line up a straight in shot 7’ away and pot and draw the cue ball back to the head rail 2’. This will be easy to do and keep doing this until you can make 10 in a row.

Now move the object ball another diamond down until you make 10, then another diamond down until you get it below the side pocket. You will see the further it gets away the harder the shot becomes and your accuracy tanks. That is because you must apply more force to the shot and as you do you are grabbing the cue at impact which causes a twist and applies unwanted English and throw you are not aware of. Keep hitting these shots with the lightest of grip with no increase of grip pressure at impact and watch your accuracy increase. There is the key to hitting power shots and making them.

This same principle of course applies to your force follows as well.

You want your fingers to be strong. I keep a rubber ball and a hand squeeze grip in my car and I use it at red lights. The stronger your fingers are the longer you can hold the cue light. What happens is you get tired and you then begin to hold the cue tighter and that kills all your feel and your cue ball position tanks. So if that happens to you, realize the cause and lighten your grip during play.

If you are going to be using a lot of wrist in your shots it alters how you hold the cue. You begin your backswing with the wrist cocking back and the forearm follows behind it. You then flick the wrist, whip it into the shot and again the forearm follows. Most will hold the cue with two fingers, index and bird. Turn your hand palm up, now pull all 4 fingers back and what you see is the index finger is too short. Each finger has 3 parts, the thumb 2 parts and the cue fits nicely on the middle part of the pinky, ring and bird, and to keep that channel its necessary to pull the index finger back so the cue rides on the first part, now all 4 are in alignment. When you pull back and cock the wrist the last two fingers that are just lightly riding on the stick wing off, hang free, then come back on in the forward whip. I will use this when it’s a grip and rip it shot.

Another concept that works well is to put the thumb between the index and bird fingers. The thumb finger print sits on the left of the bird finger, on the top part, on the left side, the index finger, the very end and the nail, is touching the right side of the thumb, and a half inch down from the end of the thumb. I need a drawing or photo of this I know. You lose some of the whip and only the pinky wings off on the back swing, the ring finger moves, but stays on the cue, and on the forward ship they all come back on the cue. There is more accuracy and stability in this grip. But you lose some power. That is always the trade off in the game.

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Took the first fast boat to China
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With a pistol in each hand
She always kept me covered
As we moved from land to land.
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With my high fashion model wife.
I wore out running all over the Americas crashed
And burned three planes.
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But make allowance for their doubting too,
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If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!
--Rudyard Kipling
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who, at the worst if he fails, at least fails while doing greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls called bozos and rail birds who never tee it up and then, know neither victory or defeat.
Teddy Roosevelt.
Paul Newman, in The Color of Money: "Money won is twice as sweet as money earned." FL says always have something riding on every match, it steels the nerves.
W. C. Fields: "Trust everyone-and always cut the cards." You can’t con an honest man. Never wise up a sucker or Give a sausage an even break. Never loan a pool player a penny, but show him where the bank is and send him there.
Quotes from FL. Exercise is not cracked up to be what it really is. If God intended for me to be able to touch my toes he would have put my toes where my knees are now. To prevent sagging when you get old just eat more and it fills out the wrinkles. The trouble with jogging is the ice falls out of my scotch glass. If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of my self. I am not afraid to die; I just don’t want to be there when it happens. I would rather be in Philadelphia.

I drink because it makes people more interesting and my wife better looking. It aint easy being me. I really didn’t say everything I said. I take the 5th on all of it. That’s my story and I’m stickin to it. Don’t even think of suing me. My mouthpiece Louie Da Lip will plead insanity, dementia, Senility, Mental Illness, emotional disability, cognitive dysfunction, psychological disorders, brain damage as a child, Alien abduction and RSB long term abuse plus Alzheimer’s disease. I got a bad bottle of Blue Agave and have not been right since. I will walk in rolling around two steel balls in my hand like Humphrey Bogart in the Cain Mutiny and No jury will convict me. Where are me fookin car keys? My memory is not as sharp as it used to be, my memory is not as sharp as it used to be, my memory is not as sharp as it used to be. When you get old they say you lose two things, (1) your memory, (2)…. Senior moment, let me get back to you with that one. I gave up looking for my lost shaker of salt years ago and thank God for wonder dog who leads me back to my motel room every night. You always wondered why I ran on the road with that dog didn’t you? So the question is am I nuts? Probably, any body who plays pool for a living is nuts, and if you play the game as long as I have you then become nuts.
There is a very fine line that divides genius and madness. A genius walks on both sides of that line all of his life.

"All of us are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusion is called a philosopher."
- Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)
"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must."
- Edward George Bulwer-Lytton (1803-1873)
I get no respect; tug on tie, that’s the entire problem, no respect. It aint easy bein me.
May peace be with you and me, and all of Gods blessings descend upon you.
God Bless you and God bless America.
You only go around once so make the most of it while you are here. You have a long way to go and a short time to get there. Be sure to take the time to smell the flowers along the way. Keep your head when all around you are losing theirs. When you lose your head, your ass soon follows. Hang loose, mello out, and play the game of life like pool, fast and loose.
“When you are called home and stand in judgment in front of St Peter and his angels he will not care how many times you won or you lost. He will only ask you how well did you play your game and how true were you to it? It is now about how many tin cups you won, but about how many friends you acquired and how many people you made love you along the way.” FL.
“The longer I play this game the harder it becomes.” Bobby Jones Jr, 1929 just before he won the grand slam, a feat no other player has been able to duplicate.
“When I first came on tour in my early 20’s I played the top courses in the country and played many of them in the low 60’s saying they are so easy. I came back to play them 20 years later and said I can’t believe how hard they are to make par on.” Johnny Miller.
“This is why 9 ball is a young mans game, because they are too stupid to understand how tough it really is. Fast Larry.”
Come chat with Larry live at www.poolchat.net. Do not miss the Encyclopedia of pool, over 200 instruction articles now up on www.poolchat.net and it’s all free. Come to Atlanta and be video taped in a 7 million dollar state of the art facility in a private room with 4 gold crowns with Larry one on one. A full day is only $350 which is only $43 an hr, every one else is charging double or triple this. It is rated as the top teaching facility in the world. 770-381-6609 puts you on the schedule, or wait for FL to show up as he is a pro UPA touring player and appears coast to coast and catch him when he comes in town.
About FL’s 20 world records, some try and dispute them, FL’s answer is you have two choice’s here, you can believe it, or you can believe it not, FL does not really give a damn which one you get on because he knows he did them all and is done fighting any one about them. He proved every one of them by the Guinness world book of records standards back in the mid 90’s. On each record, a full press release, with the video tape and signed affidavits of the witnesses were sent out to over 175 interested parties in the industry. 18 of his 20 records were set not in a pool hall, but at Georgia Tech University and filmed by an independent studio, TTN. Nobody had ever proved any thing as complete and perfect as Larry did.
To him it’s now a mute point dude. He goes out to his glory knowing what he did. He offered to bet any one 10K to 300K he could pass a lie detector test he did all that he said he did and from 1993 when this offer hit the streets till today, over a decade and a half and not one scum bum took the bet. FL put his fortune, where his mouth was and defending what he did with his life savings. If he was a fraud, somebody would have called his bluff and became rich. Those who falsely accused him were backed down by him and exposed as the real frauds and liars. They were all just jealous punks who were all exposed as nobodies who only wanted to trash those who were what they could never be, real pro’s who could really play.
A prophet is never recognized or understood in his home land. Jesus Christ, 30 AD.

The Hustler movie, 1961:
At Finley’s mansion SARAH says: Don't wear a mask, Eddie. You don't have to.(points to Bert) That's Turk, Eddie, the man who broke your
thumbs. Only he's not going to break your thumbs. He'll break your heart, your guts. And for the same reason -- 'cause he hates you,
'cause of what you are. 'Cause of what you have and he hasn't.
This explains the jealous actions of many people on the pool chat boards. They can’t play, they hate those who can. Later back at the hotel: In the bathroom mirror we see Bert asleep on his bed. The sheets are rumpled and tossed about. Then we see Sarah, in her slip, enter the
bathroom and shut the door. She takes out her lipstick and scrawls
across the image of herself in the glass
"Perverted, twisted,crippled." She underlines the word "crippled."
Those 3 words, describes the pool world Fast Larry came up in and it’s his goal in life to help change that image and see a new generation of pro pool players get respect and finally play for and earn serious money which they deserve. He want’s to see pool become the great sport it was when he first picked up a cue in the 1940’s. When the top Billiard player had the same respect and the same fame as all the top athletes in the USA then. Add up the incomes of the world champion boxer, Dempsey, Tennis star Tilden, Golfer Bobby Jones, football player Jim Thorpe and baseball legend Babe Ruth and a billiard player made more than all of them combined, His name was Willie Hoppe. He was making a million a year in l908 and no pool player since then has.
"Fast Larry" Guninger
The Power Source Traveling Pool School. To see my web page come alive click here: www.fastlarrypool.com
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