[NoirX252]

So...I have a stroke now, i don't have to really hit it break speed to get a long distance between cb/ob table length draw.

My question is.. well.. here goes..

I'm achieving this by pretending my arm died and it's super limp/relaxed, so is my grip/wrist, but i'm holding it like, Mika Immonen.

I don't actively move my wrist back, should I be doing this? or should i let the wrist naturally snap back/forward as i move forward during the stroke, (if my wrist is relaxed, it'll snap back/forth during a high speed stroke)

Noticing my ram limp, i noticed my cue tends to point to the left a lot, so much that I literally have to be more sideways than usual in my stance, but with this, I can achieve a follow through, I realized now that before, with my more square stance, as my arm relaxes during the stroke, it veers to the left back to where it's natural position is, aka i'm forcing it to be straight in a square stance by very little and unnoticeable muscle tension.

Which stance is best? this new one is more sideways than usual, the stance is very strange to me, but I can lag jacked up draw back and forth with no more than at most... a ball difference of english effecting it by the time it gets back to the tip.. (willie hoppe 101 drill but I jack up and hit draw shots to test the accuracy of my jacked up stroke) and my follow through doesn't veer anywhere but dead straight ahead.

The square stance is more natural to me as i plant and shoot, but the sideways stance gives me the most accurate hit ever, but i'm forced to plant down and again over and over, as i find myself a little off.

[FASTLARRY]

NoirX252, on Nov 14 2008, 12:32 AM, said:

So...I have a stroke now, i don't have to really hit it break speed to get a long distance between cb/ob table length draw.

My question is.. well.. here goes..

I'm achieving this by pretending my arm died and it's super limp/relaxed, so is my grip/wrist, but i'm holding it like, Mika Immonen.

DONT OVER DO IT, PUT A LITTLE BEND IN THE LEFT ARM, AND YOUR HOLD, GRIP SHOULD BE FIRM, BUT NO TIGHT, GRIP MOSTLY BETWEEN THE WEB UP HIGH WHERE THE THUMB AND INDEX FINGER CONNECT.

I don't actively move my wrist back, should I be doing this? or should i let the wrist naturally snap back/forward as i move forward during the stroke, (if my wrist is relaxed, it'll snap back/forth during a high speed stroke)

YES, MOST OF YOU BEGIN MOVING YOUR FOREARM AND WRIST BACK IN ONE PIECE, I BEGIN BY BENDING MY WRIST BACK AND MY FOREARM LAGS AND FOLLOWS IT BACK, THEN I SNAP, WHIP MY WRIST FORWARD AND AGAIN THE FOREARM FOLLOWS BEHIND IT.

Noticing my ram limp, i noticed my cue tends to point to the left a lot, so much that I literally have to be more sideways than usual in my stance, but with this, I can achieve a follow through, I realized now that before, with my more square stance, as my arm relaxes during the stroke, it veers to the left back to where it's natural position is, aka i'm forcing it to be straight in a square stance by very little and unnoticeable muscle tension.

OOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH some ting wong grasshopper.
If any thing it normally points to the right. I would have to see you, but you are probably standing wrong. The sideways stance right was a 70's thing. Try standing facing the shot, with both toes angled out 30 degrees left and right, then the cue will fall in line, naturally.

Which stance is best? this new one is more sideways than usual, the stance is very strange to me, but I can lag jacked up draw back and forth with no more than at most... a ball difference of english effecting it by the time it gets back to the tip.. (willie hoppe 101 drill but I jack up and hit draw shots to test the accuracy of my jacked up stroke) and my follow through doesn't veer anywhere but dead straight ahead.

The square stance is more natural to me as i plant and shoot, but the sideways stance gives me the most accurate hit ever, but i'm forced to plant down and again over and over, as i find myself a little off.

THIS IS BECAUSE IT IS NOT RIGHT, AND YOUR CPU IS TELLING YOU THIS. once you get it right, and cpu accepts this, you fall into it dead perfect every time, with very little final adjustment required. Again, I can't fix you, if I can't see you. Tape your self, get it on DVD, send it to me, and I'll then tell you want to do. No charge.

[NoirX252]

put a little bend in my left arm? ? Confused here.

[FASTLARRY]

NoirX252, on Nov 15 2008, 12:15 AM, said:

put a little bend in my left arm? ? Confused here.

no problem mate, put a little bend in it, I want no locked joints, anywhere, expept in me Willie.
The bend can be slight, to a lot, and lay the arm on the table for some shots. Be loose as a goose mate.

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[NoirX252]

I think the correct stance is the one i've been using all along, except maybe I need to adjust the head alignment, I am very much left eye dominant (no i'm not left handed nor has my mom switched me from left hand to right hand when I was young, lol)

It's very annoying, my bicep keeps running into my ribcage/tits. and it's kind of causing the left veer on my followthrough, does this matter? it's somewhere in the followthrough, after the cb is hit, but i'm sure in some way shape or form i'm twisting to make it cause that.. meaning..

I might notice the left veer on the follow through, but I'm probably veering left very very very small on the cb hit sometimes, esp on powerful hits, I try as best as possible to not make my chest/biceps twitch/tighen on a power stroke, just very very loose. so loose i'm dead! (but the muscle/stroke has to come from somewhere, but it just happens and to me i'm very very loose

I fi lag up and down slowly center, i hit center maybe 7/10? I'm purely guessing here.

I want a dead perfect straight stroke, even jacked up, or hitting break speed on top/center/draw. is this possible? and the stroke always seems to go to the gutter on the draw, where tend to really twist/hit off center. have any tips?

This stroke flaw on the draw stroke really kills my confidence on kill shots, power draw shots, long soft stun shots (i love to hit really soft and have the cb stun, it makes the pocket biger anyways, if.. my stroke was good)

[FASTLARRY]

NoirX252, on Nov 20 2008, 03:14 PM, said:

I think the correct stance is the one i've been using all along, except maybe I need to adjust the head alignment, I am very much left eye dominant (no i'm not left handed nor has my mom switched me from left hand to right hand when I was young, lol)

It's very annoying, my bicep keeps running into my ribcage/tits. and it's kind of causing the left veer on my followthrough, does this matter? it's somewhere in the followthrough, after the cb is hit, but i'm sure in some way shape or form i'm twisting to make it cause that.. meaning..

I might notice the left veer on the follow through, but I'm probably veering left very very very small on the cb hit sometimes, esp on powerful hits, I try as best as possible to not make my chest/biceps twitch/tighen on a power stroke, just very very loose. so loose i'm dead! (but the muscle/stroke has to come from somewhere, but it just happens and to me i'm very very loose

I fi lag up and down slowly center, i hit center maybe 7/10? I'm purely guessing here.

I want a dead perfect straight stroke, even jacked up, or hitting break speed on top/center/draw. is this possible? and the stroke always seems to go to the gutter on the draw, where tend to really twist/hit off center. have any tips?

This stroke flaw on the draw stroke really kills my confidence on kill shots, power draw shots, long soft stun shots (i love to hit really soft and have the cb stun, it makes the pocket biger anyways, if.. my stroke was good)

On total accurancy shots my shaft is rubbing under the tit, and is in contact with the ribs back and through, and the hand stops on impact with the ribs, shorter, more compact, less power.

When I want to grip and rip it and allow it to hang out more right free of the body, so I can make a longer follow through, and accurancy takes a few hit points.

[NoirX252]

hit points.. i like that, too much games? lol

[FASTLARRY]

NoirX252, on Nov 20 2008, 05:49 PM, said:

hit points.. i like that, too much games? lol

Normally in life it's important to look cool. U try to walk cool, talk cool, and B cool. It's all about style points. When I show up in my Vest and tux shirt, I get style points, I score a 9. When I show up in my Hawiian shirt, I know I take hits, people deduct style points, they score me a two. In Joyzee I catch an uno. But I don't give a damn, the shirt feels great, its comfortable and screw the style point hits. In Florida or in Maui I score a 10. Different strokes dude, for different folks. Same on the stance.

So in your stance, forget cool. I take people all the time who are in proper standard snooker stances, which R totally un natural and stiff for them, and put them into some really dumb looking stances where it looks like they R squatting down to take a giant She-yit. And they work, and they feel natural, the cue hangs for the first time in the proper place each time and it takes all the strain off the back and legs.

Pel came to me recently in such a stance, perfect proper snooker stance and I put him in the squat stance and he said after he had back surgery that was the stance he was using, his body put him into it naturally because there was no pain, no stress on the muscles. And when he healed, what did he do, go right back to that snooker stance, because he feels that is what the pros do. He never connected this.
Is he in the squat stance I gave him, bet you a C note he is not, and back on that snooker stance. Why? I guess he want's to look like a pro?

You guys do not realize, you can find your own stance, that works and you have to stop getting them out of books and off TV.

[The_Woim]

Fast Larry,

You mentioned yoru fondness for Hawaiian shirts.

Check out this site:

www.sierratradingpost.com

It's a great website for shirts of all kinds, even a special section for Hawaiian shirts.

The website specializes in selling seconds. A high end shirtmaker may make an error on his shirt and he can't sell it at full price but he doesn't want to just waste the fabric and the time it took to make it so Sierra Trading Post buys up volumes of nice clothes and items and sells them at 25-75% off.

I've bought three pairs of pants and three shirts from this website, so they are pretty good at what they do.

Yours truly,
The Woim

[FASTLARRY]

The_Woim, on Nov 21 2008, 02:16 PM, said:

Fast Larry,

You mentioned yoru fondness for Hawaiian shirts.

Check out this site:

www.sierratradingpost.com

It's a great website for shirts of all kinds, even a special section for Hawaiian shirts.

The website specializes in selling seconds. A high end shirtmaker may make an error on his shirt and he can't sell it at full price but he doesn't want to just waste the fabric and the time it took to make it so Sierra Trading Post buys up volumes of nice clothes and items and sells them at 25-75% off.

I've bought three pairs of pants and three shirts from this website, so they are pretty good at what they do.

Yours truly,
The Woim

Thanks for the lead, I'll check them out. I don't mind a little blem or 2nd, if its hard to find or see.

On Hawaiian shirts, you are best to stay with the higher end quality stuff, avoid walmart. I have over 100, so I am out of the market for the next decade. The great thing about them, is they never go out of style, there is only one style.
I got a lot of jams world on ebay, by bidding, and I was the only bidder, and they were half off the normal retail. I like the real light weight silky feeling ones. So cool on the bod./