[Hillyer]

Im thinking of re-doing my table. I currenty have a navy colored tournament felt. I prefer the faster felts. Anyone had any experience with felt durability that could recommend a felt that wont cost me a fortune? Thanks ahead.

[Joeyjay]

Hillyer, on Oct 23 2008, 10:03 AM, said:

Im thinking of re-doing my table. I currenty have a navy colored tournament felt. I prefer the faster felts. Anyone had any experience with felt durability that could recommend a felt that wont cost me a fortune? Thanks ahead.

All the pros play on simonis 860, Larry sells it here.

[fweddybear]

Hillyer, on Oct 23 2008, 09:03 AM, said:

Im thinking of re-doing my table. I currenty have a navy colored tournament felt. I prefer the faster felts. Anyone had any experience with felt durability that could recommend a felt that wont cost me a fortune? Thanks ahead.

I personally like Simonis 860. It is slower than the 760, but it does last. I use my table every day for probably 3 or so hours a day, and its been a good 2 years since it was last recovered, and there is only one small spot just starting to give way...hope this helps...

[Demondrew]

Bite the bullet and buy Simonis. If you really like a fast cloth and have a pro-8 or 9 foot table go with 760 for any table smaller than that go with 860.

I play on a bar box at a local watering hole that has 760 and it is too fast.

Buy the best and cry once.

Demo

[MitchAlsup]

Hillyer, on Oct 23 2008, 09:03 AM, said:

I prefer the faster felts.

The question is how fast. 860 is usefully fast, 760 is faster, and 300 billiards cloth is really fast.

A faster cloth will have you working on the delicacy of your stroke, and subtle amounts of english. This is where many (many) players simply don't have game--they don't know how lightly tohit the cue ball touch an object ball near the rail and hide the cue ball behind that object ball. Having never played on a fast cloth leaves them with the impression that hitting hard is de rigór; it is not.

You do not have to hit the object ball any harder than that which will cause it to roll all the way to the pocket and drop over the edge. Anything more than this is done because you have a plan for the cue ball after it hits the object ball. {Yet most do not}.

860 is pleny fast to 7 and 8 foot tables. in my opinion, 760 is optimal for 9 footers; billiards cloth should be left for competive practice (but not play) tables and for biliards. I've watched a few 9-ball and 7-ball (semi and) final tables played on billiards cloth. The delicacy need toplay, here, is very fun to watch.

[Pelican]

Also consider where you play other than home if you play leagues or gamble. The bar box we have for our team to practice on has 860 on it. None of the the bars where we play have anything close to 860. We would actually be better of recovering with a slower cloth to closer match the play of the tables we use on league nights.

Pel

PS: it's cloth, not felt

[MitchAlsup]

Pelican, on Apr 14 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

Also consider where you play other than home if you play leagues or gamble. The bar box we have for our team to practice on has 860 on it. None of the the bars where we play have anything close to 860. We would actually be better of recovering with a slower cloth to closer match the play of the tables we use on league nights.

I am going to (mildly) disagree with your here.

I practice on a 9 foot table with 860, and play on a 7 foot table with slow fuzzy felt. The amount of energy that it takes to move the cue ball around and pot balls is surprisingly similar. The only thing that is really off is that the short slow feltted table is almost impossible to draw as the cue ball has so much friction on that felt that, by the time it moves 4 feet, the spin has been eaten up, whereas, on the longer table with fast felt, the cue will draw back 5 feet from the same board positions. {And yes I am completely aware of the heavy large cue balls influence on the draw aspect.}

Now, practicing and playing on the same sized table with the same speed cloth is ideal, and no-one can disagree with that {excepting, perhaps, Larry himself}.

[Nemesis]

How long does the 300 last? Does it have a shorter or longer life span than 860?

[Demondrew]

Nemesis, on Jul 27 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

How long does the 300 last? Does it have a shorter or longer life span than 860?

I play in a hall that has 300 on their 6x12 snooker table. Mostly golf is played and a occational game of snooker.
It needs to be replaced about as often as the pool tables with 760 and 860.
IMO for the amount of play it gets it does not last nearly long enough.
Find someplace that has 300 cloth and play on it. It is made for billiard tables for a reason, it's too fast for a pool table.

[coolcuedude]

Demondrew, on Jul 27 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

I play in a hall that has 300 on their 6x12 snooker table. Mostly golf is played and a occational game of snooker.
It needs to be replaced about as often as the pool tables with 760 and 860.
IMO for the amount of play it gets it does not last nearly long enough.
Find someplace that has 300 cloth and play on it. It is made for billiard tables for a reason, it's too fast for a pool table.

Yes, 300 is not right, if they want fast, 760 is all they need. 300 is only for carom games. Way too fast for pool.

[Cracker Barrel Gizmatchi]

You could always go to your local billiards store and feel there selection. That's what i do, still haven't found that right feel yet. but i am sure i will

[Destrukkt]

Simmonis 760 is my favorite I think.. but I am not used to it. It's still my favorite. I don't play good on it because im not used to it.. but this is the only table I can do awesome english on. If I wanted a table I played 100% of the time on it'd be one with simmonis.