[Pin]

I've been thinking about this for a little while. I'm not such a good ball-runner as some players, but usually better tactically. A power break that leaves a very open table might not always be my best move.

Different rule-sets have different requirements for balls to cushions, but it's always possible to leave a significant cluster in the rack area, and keep most of the balls in that half of the table (perhaps leaving the CB ('whit ey' is censored ) in the kitchen, near the rail, too).

I think I'll exeriment with this. How do you see these kinds of game playing out tactically?

[FASTLARRY]

Pin, on Dec 27 2007, 03:11 PM, said:

I've been thinking about this for a little while. I'm not such a good ball-runner as some players, but usually better tactically. A power break that leaves a very open table might not always be my best move.

Different rule-sets have different requirements for balls to cushions, but it's always possible to leave a significant cluster in the rack area, and keep most of the balls in that half of the table (perhaps leaving the CB ('whit ey' is censored ) in the kitchen, near the rail, too).

I think I'll exeriment with this. How do you see these kinds of game playing out tactically?

When Mister Cues was the top room in Georgia and I was the house pro there they had a Wednesday night tourney for cash that had talent in it you could not believe. The best sticks in town were there as that was the place to be that night. Winning it was equal to winning a regional tour event. When I won it I had to beat a regional tour winner and in the finals I beat a current PBT big tour pro. Took him out 10-2 and he was the top stick in town at the time. Peg Ledman was on the women's tour at the time and not in the top 10, but in the top 20. She could play and knew all the moves and was well seasoned. She entered the event every week and got beat by a 10 year old, then a 90 year old, and everybody in between. They were so tough there she lost 7 weeks in a row. The 8th week she came in and won. She finally realized she could not break and run with these guys, they were too tough for her and she was not in their leagues. She soft broke every rack and created clumps and clusters down table. Every table was a mess. The boys did not know what to do, got frustrated and began shooting at everything and she out smarted them all and won. Yes, playing What I would call N pool, but it did work. I lost all respect for the bitch doing that, having to resort to that, but again, it did work. Once she won, she never came back. I then lost double respect for her. It what I call chicken S*** pool. Break em and run em like a man, or go buy a pink dress. That is what 9 ball is supposed to be, not one pocket.

[Dandydan]

FASTLARRY, on Dec 27 2007, 03:30 PM, said:

When Mister Cues was the top room in Georgia and I was the house pro there they had a Wednesday night tourney for cash that had talent in it you could not believe. The best sticks in town were there as that was the place to be that night. Winning it was equal to winning a regional tour event. When I won it I had to beat a regional tour winner and in the finals I beat a current PBT big tour pro. Took him out 10-2 and he was the top stick in town at the time. Peg Ledman was on the women's tour at the time and not in the top 10, but in the top 20. She could play and knew all the moves and was well seasoned. She entered the event every week and got beat by a 10 year old, then a 90 year old, and everybody in between. They were so tough there she lost 7 weeks in a row. The 8th week she came in and won. She finally realized she could not break and run with these guys, they were too tough for her and she was not in their leagues. She soft broke every rack and created clumps and clusters down table. Every table was a mess. The boys did not know what to do, got frustrated and began shooting at everything and she out smarted them all and won. Yes, playing What I would call N pool, but it did work. I lost all respect for the ***** doing that, having to resort to that, but again, it did work. Once she won, she never came back. I then lost double respect for her. It what I call chicken S*** pool. Break em and run em like a man, or go buy a pink dress. That is what 9 ball is supposed to be, not one pocket.

Try that **** in some of the bars I play in and you will have a pool cue up your rear end.

[Pin]

Hmm, sounds like an unpopular idea!

I think it'd be interesting to see the technical and tactical battle plays out. I just see it as completely different from a conventional game of 8-ball. Maybe someone would find their best shot to just slam the remaining cluster in the rack area and it would revert to normal pool. Maybe it just depends on the players.

I'm probably looking at it more from a snooker mindset, where tactical battles are accepted as part of the game. I guess most pool players just see them as a nuisance that detracts from running balls.


Ah well, maybe some time I'll bring out the pink dress and give it a go

[mojomike]

Pin, on Dec 27 2007, 11:47 PM, said:

Hmm, sounds like an unpopular idea!

I think it'd be interesting to see the technical and tactical battle plays out. I just see it as completely different from a conventional game of 8-ball. Maybe someone would find their best shot to just slam the remaining cluster in the rack area and it would revert to normal pool. Maybe it just depends on the players.

I'm probably looking at it more from a snooker mindset, where tactical battles are accepted as part of the game. I guess most pool players just see them as a nuisance that detracts from running balls.


Ah well, maybe some time I'll bring out the pink dress and give it a go

9 ball can never be played like a frame of snooker or 14 balls of 14.1, there are not enough balls to hide behind or deal with.

[Pin]

I'm thinking about 8-ball, not 9-ball.

It tends to be clusters and interference with your path round the table which make a game tactical.

Are pink skirts for 8-ball soft breaks too?

[pool2da]

Pin, on Dec 28 2007, 01:55 PM, said:

I'm thinking about 8-ball, not 9-ball.

It tends to be clusters and interference with your path round the table which make a game tactical.

Are pink skirts for 8-ball soft breaks too?

As long as you feel comfortable wearing them, do your thing. I would suggest you wear panties with them for the long stretches across the table. You would not want to expose to much to your opponent

[Pelican]

Most league rules require a certain number of balls to go to the rail after the break. In APA it is 4. You can really soft break and get the two corners but to get four takes much more effort.

Pel

[Pin]

If you play a ball near a corner, perhaps the second to back row of the back, I think you can get 4 to a rail, and still leave a very solid group in the rack area.

Plus some of the balls you drive to rails will bounce rght back towards the rack (a little bit like a good 14.1 break).


However, even not going to these extremes, simply by leaving some of my power in my pocket, I can play a normal break, and be very confident that I will leave things too tied up for a run out. Most bar players will very rarely get a sufficient split to allow a run out on a 6/7ft table.

Does that kind of 'average' break still require dressing in drag?