[onebigred51]

Does anyone know of 14.1 Continuous (straight pool) leagues.

Is anyone familiar with Kevin Vidal and the 14and1.com league?

[The_Woim]

I've participated in two full seasons of 14.1 league play and it's a blast! The game of 14.1 allows for a lot of intense strategy that isn't available to the same intensity in 8 ball.

I am unaware of Vidal's league.

Give it a try if you can.

Yours Truly,
The Woim

[The_Woim]

Do you have the chance to play in this league?

Yours Truly,
The Woim

[imax]

Checked out the 14:1 site, very spartan right now.

They did have a link to an interesting video of Niels Feijen running 250+ balls in straight pool on Netherlands youtube site which is posted below.

Niels Feijen 250+ ball straight pool run on Netherlands youtube

[onebigred51]

To The Woim

Yes I will have a chance to play in this league. I am planning on running one in my area (Peoria, IL.). I am currently playing in the APA (8 & 9 ball) and have played in the Shooters league. So I do have some experience with league play.

Additionally, a local christian center has held a small inhouse league for 14.1 of which I have played in.

I am running the league here because no one has wanted to and I want to find players to play this game so that I can play this game.

[The_Woim]

onebigred51, on Nov 27 2007, 09:22 PM, said:

To The Woim

Yes I will have a chance to play in this league. I am planning on running one in my area (Peoria, IL.). I am currently playing in the APA (8 & 9 ball) and have played in the Shooters league. So I do have some experience with league play.

Additionally, a local christian center has held a small inhouse league for 14.1 of which I have played in.

I am running the league here because no one has wanted to and I want to find players to play this game so that I can play this game.

Cool! I hope everything works out for you!

14.1 is a great game! In my opinion, it's the one game that you can play by yourself without feeling lonely or bored. A game of pool where time stops and it's just you and the table.

Yours Truly,
The Woim

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We all know 9 ball can be very unfair. On 3 occasions pros have broke and ran 9 straight racks in a race to 11 giving the opponent no chance to come back. 9 ball can also be a very unfair game when the rolls go against you and luck becomes a factor. The races are just too short and you are seeing them have sets to 5 games on TV. 7 ball is now on. 9 ball is a stupid short rack version of 9 ball. You can make 90% of the balls and lose. Does that make any sense?
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[JoeS]

I should really start playing 14.1 -- it seems like I'm missing out. I primarily play 8-ball (my favorite) and don't play 9-ball as much.

I need to practice that 15th ball and getting a good shot on it to break up the rack. Honestly I really haven't played 14.1 more than a handful of times so I got a lot of work to do!

[Demondrew]

I'm the secretary / statistician for our 14.1 league. We will be starting our winter season on January 9, 2008 6:00pm at Stix in Waterford Mi (248) 674-4133. It is a handicapped league. Everyone has a chance to win. Everyone has a good time. Or you can PM me and I can give you some more information. DEMO

[Pin]

JoeS, on Nov 28 2007, 05:27 PM, said:

I should really start playing 14.1 -- it seems like I'm missing out. I primarily play 8-ball (my favorite) and don't play 9-ball as much.

I need to practice that 15th ball and getting a good shot on it to break up the rack. Honestly I really haven't played 14.1 more than a handful of times so I got a lot of work to do!

As I understand it, there are 3 kinds of positions that are good for a break shot. When you know them, you can identify good balls to leave until last (and which ball to leave second to last, so you can get a good position).

This is how I play - pick a break ball and work around it.

At a higher level you can also think about moving OBs around to *create* a good break ball.

[Pin]

http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AGok4BCYB3CCpA4DC...Ds3mAVd3mEEszb@


Types of good break shot to leave yourself.

My order of preference:

1. The break-shot from the 1-ball

2. The shot from the 8

3. The shot from the 12


It's also important how you hit the pack - hitting a coner ball (at a slight angle) makes it less likely the CB will stick to the pack.

But at my level, just getting a decent break shot is good enough for now! (I don't play that much, or in serious competition.)