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Seems to me that when playing a woman, whether she is a good player or not, I tend to go a bit soft, and play a "gentlemanly" game. It's almost as if I'm going to give her a sporting chance which, often, she doesn't need, as she's not too bad a player. I think men need to go out when playing a woman and just plain dominate the game (if they are able) and slam dunk the match. Mess with her head, make her cry, make her feel like you're not giving her any breaks. Because if you slack off, she might well beat you, as has happened to me a few times. I think it helps to imagine that I'm playing the meanest, toughest, sharpest shark out there, and go out and swab him all over the deck. ... What think ye?
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Psychology when playing a woman
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 10:34 PM
Zing it in... :-D
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 11:17 AM
They are trying hard to beat you, and when they do, they enjoy it immensely. Do not be fooled by that little delicate female con oh be nice to me. Come into my web, said the spider to the fly.........
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Posted 17 June 2004 - 07:33 AM
Damn right Plato-
Unless you are going to get some bed time with them later (and you know it) I say whip that a$$ and be done with it. They are just another target for the sniper in my opinion.
We have a good lookin' girl at our league that always wears low cut shirts and leans over alot while playing. She refuses to play me. I don't fall for her crap. Yeah, I don't mind looking. Right up to the time that we are shooting at the table. Then I wait for my time to kick her a$$ and take the match. No mercy, have than killer instinct. Kill or be killed.
Unless you are going to get some bed time with them later (and you know it) I say whip that a$$ and be done with it. They are just another target for the sniper in my opinion.
We have a good lookin' girl at our league that always wears low cut shirts and leans over alot while playing. She refuses to play me. I don't fall for her crap. Yeah, I don't mind looking. Right up to the time that we are shooting at the table. Then I wait for my time to kick her a$$ and take the match. No mercy, have than killer instinct. Kill or be killed.
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Posted 17 June 2004 - 11:02 PM
Reminds me of my league days. Played this one woman that was overly flirty. Due to my relationship circumstances I had to turn her down but we ended up playing each other that night for our match. I was a six and she was a 3. I was only playing her because I had to jet pretty early that night. Anyway long story short. Nice a$$ nice breasts, and a sweet smile. First game I played around messed up on the 5 was to busy watching the view and she walked up to the table and banked two shots in a row dogged the nine and left it hanging in the pocket. It wasn't the miss that caught my attention though it was the two banks one cross corner and the other a very tight side pocket bank. I said to myself MM this chick can play and she's sandbagged her way to a 3. So I finished her off quick and she came up to me all pouty and fluttered those eyes and kind of stomped and said You weren't nice to me. I replied back yes I was I left you a couple shots it was just to bad you were hooked for all of them. Turns out I was right because I caught her out at another pool hall I play in and she was playing some strong players for a 10 spot and kicking a$$. Never have mercy
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Posted 18 June 2004 - 11:10 AM
I played league with a few guys who could not beat a woman. Seems that they were distracted by the woman's physical attributes so that they could not concentrate on the game.
It appears, that being said, that this can be a double edged sword.
Many women, especially 40ish and older were taught that men had these fragile egos and it was our responsibility to build up their fragile egos. i am in my early fifties. I was told by my mother to never beat a guy at a game or they might not ask me out again. For some women like me, the competitive drive is and can be a strong drive, stronger than what mommy taught. Those are the ones who go all out to beat you.
There are always those women, of course that are, like the several men I mentioned, distracted and more interesting in flirting than playing, but they do not typically go very far in their skills.
The other edge of the sword is men being brought up to believe that they are the stronger sex and women are fragile,emotionally and physically. They certainly would take it easy on them in a game of strength such as arm wrestlling, and this can carry over to other games such as pool where strength is not as much of a factor. Emotionally, women are often perceived as more sensitive/emotionally fragile and some men do not want to hurt their feelings or hurt their 'fragile' self-esteems.
So, this can go both ways, if the player of either sex is controlled by these kind of belief systems. In reality, at the table, since women are competing with men, there is no male and female. The women do after all have access to women only tournaments, and in some cases, women only leagues, so should be treated no different if they have chosen to compete with men.
Some young people may not be taught this way, but many are, because they are being brought up by those who were taught that way.
That is my opinion and the mold that both the guys and the women have to break out of to be competitive and to win. Come to the table properly prepared mentally and the player hardly notices their oponent, the sex or who it is, because the player is superfocused.
Laura
It appears, that being said, that this can be a double edged sword.
Many women, especially 40ish and older were taught that men had these fragile egos and it was our responsibility to build up their fragile egos. i am in my early fifties. I was told by my mother to never beat a guy at a game or they might not ask me out again. For some women like me, the competitive drive is and can be a strong drive, stronger than what mommy taught. Those are the ones who go all out to beat you.
There are always those women, of course that are, like the several men I mentioned, distracted and more interesting in flirting than playing, but they do not typically go very far in their skills.
The other edge of the sword is men being brought up to believe that they are the stronger sex and women are fragile,emotionally and physically. They certainly would take it easy on them in a game of strength such as arm wrestlling, and this can carry over to other games such as pool where strength is not as much of a factor. Emotionally, women are often perceived as more sensitive/emotionally fragile and some men do not want to hurt their feelings or hurt their 'fragile' self-esteems.
So, this can go both ways, if the player of either sex is controlled by these kind of belief systems. In reality, at the table, since women are competing with men, there is no male and female. The women do after all have access to women only tournaments, and in some cases, women only leagues, so should be treated no different if they have chosen to compete with men.
Some young people may not be taught this way, but many are, because they are being brought up by those who were taught that way.
That is my opinion and the mold that both the guys and the women have to break out of to be competitive and to win. Come to the table properly prepared mentally and the player hardly notices their oponent, the sex or who it is, because the player is superfocused.
Laura
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Posted 18 June 2004 - 11:32 AM
Great post Bluewolf.
The issue of becoming distracted by those lovely curves came up in the Ask Fast thread recently, it'll be somewhere on the most recent couple of pages.
My opinion:
If you're just playing very non-seriously, to pass some time, the outcome isn't that important. But then your game will be comparatively low-level anyway, so you needn't cut her any slack, although it doesn't really matter if you do.
But if you're playing a serious match, or even if it's only her who genuinely cares about the outcome, it's a bit different.
If she cares about winning, you should give her your A game - the win means nothing if you weren't trying your best, so it's very disrespectful to any opponent to deny them a 'proper' match by not playing seriously and full-out.
The issue of becoming distracted by those lovely curves came up in the Ask Fast thread recently, it'll be somewhere on the most recent couple of pages.
My opinion:
If you're just playing very non-seriously, to pass some time, the outcome isn't that important. But then your game will be comparatively low-level anyway, so you needn't cut her any slack, although it doesn't really matter if you do.
But if you're playing a serious match, or even if it's only her who genuinely cares about the outcome, it's a bit different.
If she cares about winning, you should give her your A game - the win means nothing if you weren't trying your best, so it's very disrespectful to any opponent to deny them a 'proper' match by not playing seriously and full-out.
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Posted 18 June 2004 - 11:47 AM
Another psychological factor for women. Men think that they are better players as a rule, and the women think that they are better too. So many women would rather play men. it is like this. If you grew up trying to prove you are as good as a man,ie better than the other women, it is more of an insult to lose to a woman than to lose to a man. In some cases, thinking I am better than a woman, I let up easy on some women and get beat, but bare down hard on the men to beat them.
If I lose to a man, it just does not feel as bad, for some reason. I grew up competing with men and thinking all of the other women were sissies. I was a tom boy and thought that the 'woman' stuff was silly. You would find me in a tree, playing gun games with the boys and playing football with the guys.
Women have problems with other women too because of the way we were brought up and typically men fight and get over it, women get even.
Now, I am not that way, but I have had to overcome this attitude of feeling I am better than any woman but especially early on, more women beat me than men because I let up. I think that this happens to men playing women to but for a different reason, those stated in the post above.
Laura
If I lose to a man, it just does not feel as bad, for some reason. I grew up competing with men and thinking all of the other women were sissies. I was a tom boy and thought that the 'woman' stuff was silly. You would find me in a tree, playing gun games with the boys and playing football with the guys.
Women have problems with other women too because of the way we were brought up and typically men fight and get over it, women get even.
Now, I am not that way, but I have had to overcome this attitude of feeling I am better than any woman but especially early on, more women beat me than men because I let up. I think that this happens to men playing women to but for a different reason, those stated in the post above.
Laura
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Posted 21 June 2004 - 11:08 PM
damn, i hate this post, women are so cool. they manipulate you, sure, but we loved having that done to us. It is so hard for me to play a really attractive lady and want to win, I would rather bed her and lose, usually I lose and she takes off and i end up humping my fist. Was I coned, who knows, who cares.
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Posted 22 June 2004 - 12:11 AM
If the lady is really attractive and a good player, shoot and play to win. Don't think she doesn't realize she's a distraction. Just go out and win. And after it's over and you've won, tell her you got some lucky rolls, which you certainly did, and thank her for the great match. She'll like that :-) I assure you, and next time you play her it will be enjoyable again. :-D
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Posted 27 June 2004 - 09:41 PM
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they manipulate you
Yes, they generally can't best a man physically, so they rely more on manipulation.
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but we loved having that done to us.
We do? No we don't.
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It is so hard for me to play a really attractive lady and want to win, I would rather bed her and lose
Therein lies the rub. You have a better chance of gaining her respect and admiration if you win. She wants a man who is strong and successful. She will try to win but she may be testing you.
More importantly, however, it is unwise to enter into any kind of competion with someone you would like to develop an amorous relationship with.
[ Edited by TomBrooklyn on 2004/6/27 21:42 ]
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 12:30 PM
' date='Jun 28 2004, 02:41 AM said:
Yes, they generally can't best a man physically, so they rely more on manipulation.
We do? No we don't.
Therein lies the rub. You have a better chance of gaining her respect and admiration if you win. She wants a man who is strong and successful. She will try to win but she may be testing you.
More importantly, however, it is unwise to enter into any kind of competion with someone you would like to develop an amorous relationship with.
[ Edited by TomBrooklyn on 2004/6/27 21:42 ]
We do? No we don't.
Therein lies the rub. You have a better chance of gaining her respect and admiration if you win. She wants a man who is strong and successful. She will try to win but she may be testing you.
More importantly, however, it is unwise to enter into any kind of competion with someone you would like to develop an amorous relationship with.
[ Edited by TomBrooklyn on 2004/6/27 21:42 ]
Here is a hot topic for you guys? Who has been beat by a woman, how did you feel about it. I only lost to one, Diane Crane in a Viking event, I had an eye injury and was damn near blind, my vision was blurred and I could not run 3 balls. She was a former tour player and not a local hack, her husband is tour player Wade Crane. She ran a pool hall all her life so she lived on a table. Losing did not bother me because I did not have my best game and if I did I should have won if the rolls went right. I think women have an advantage because men fear losing to them. I realize there are at least 10 women today I probably would lose to so its no biggie to me any more.
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Posted 26 December 2007 - 01:53 PM
FASTLARRY, on Dec 19 2007, 05:30 PM, said:
Here is a hot topic for you guys? Who has been beat by a woman, how did you feel about it. I only lost to one, Diane Crane in a Viking event, I had an eye injury and was **** near blind, my vision was blurred and I could not run 3 balls. She was a former tour player and not a local hack, her husband is tour player Wade Crane. She ran a pool hall all her life so she lived on a table. Losing did not bother me because I did not have my best game and if I did I should have won if the rolls went right. I think women have an advantage because men fear losing to them. I realize there are at least 10 women today I probably would lose to so its no biggie to me any more.
What is the Psychology when playing a woman
If she is attractive, don't look at her ######. Don't even look at her at all. Just beat her flat, then stare at her ######, that one really chaps their ***.
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Posted 26 December 2007 - 01:54 PM
Boy this new board is tough. Since when did titties become a bad word?
t i t t i e s. We all got em. Ok, if it won't let that through them I'll try mammary glands. ######, honkers, what a pair, double 38's, bet I got cha on one of them.
t i t t i e s. We all got em. Ok, if it won't let that through them I'll try mammary glands. ######, honkers, what a pair, double 38's, bet I got cha on one of them.
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Posted 26 December 2007 - 03:03 PM
You just need to develop the mental discipline to be able to "assess" a woman and still focus on the game of pool.
There's nothing The Woim likes looking at more than a pretty girl!
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There's nothing The Woim likes looking at more than a pretty girl!
Yours Truly,
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Posted 26 December 2007 - 06:22 PM
The_Woim, on Dec 26 2007, 08:03 PM, said:
You just need to develop the mental discipline to be able to "assess" a woman and still focus on the game of pool.
There's nothing The Woim likes looking at more than a pretty girl!
Yours Truly,
The Woim
There's nothing The Woim likes looking at more than a pretty girl!
Yours Truly,
The Woim
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