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lol :-D

I assume people will make the natural counter-arguments to this post, so I won't bother.

[Marlboro Man]

Depends on what view you want to take. I have watched both play and think that men have a little more skill. The argument usually made is men are better players because they have more power. But last time I checked pool wasn't exactly a power sport. You can play well with half of the force exerted by the men. Some of the top female pro's have proven this.

[Terminator]

Women belong in my bed and in my kitchen, not in my pool hall. Those things they call women on TV are not women, they are dykes.

[THEMOS]

Go back and watch the women break at 9 ball, then compare them to the men, then you will see your statement about power is all wrong. The women are nothing more than practiced pattern players. Give them an open table and they run out. When they have to come with a big shot, a big draw or follow to achieve shape they screw up.

[paco1076]

Laura,

You are a very wise woman who as obviously learned from experience and observation, not just from what has been told to you. I totally agree with what you have said here. I think that you are right, at the league level women are winning and can give a man a run for his money. At the pro level, I just don't believe the women are "up to snuff" yet. It will take several years for them to get there.

Craig

[Terminator]

The top 5 women in the wpba are tough, play mens speed and can defeat a lot of top men players. The 5 to 10 then becomes a different thing, in the mens world they would be the bottom of the barrel ham and eggers. Out of the top 10, you can see better pool down at your local pool halls when two gamblers match up.

[Black-dot]

Went into a local pool hall in northern Virginia, the Shark Club, or something like that, yesterday, as they had a new special: $5 for 5 hours, on Sundays.

Brought my own set of balls, Centennials, and got a pretty good table, fortunately. Not 2 minutes passed before one of the better sticks in the house asked me if I'd like to play him some 9-ball. Says I "Sure, after I practice a bit"...

He said something like, "You're the second person to come in here with his own balls. You must be good..." Says I, "Well, at least the balls are consistent. They don't change, and the cuts and throws are always the same. The balls in this other set are from at least 2 different sets...."

I'm not that good, I know it, but I really do enjoy a nice game of pool. And I love psyching guys out.

That being said, while there are some pretty good women players out there, psyching them out is a bit easier than the hustlin' guys...

By the way, shootin' around isn't the same thing as playing for something, and no longer do I bring out a really good game until I'm playing for something...

I'll take the two gamblers mentioned in the previous post most any day....


Best,

Black-dot

[TomBrooklyn]

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sananda2050 wrote: That is what these forums are for: discussion of different points of view....a great deal can be learned from them.

Seize the day. Put no trust in tomorrow.

[ Edited by TomBrooklyn on 2004/6/27 21:13 ]

[9BallroadPro]

Yes Tom, God grants none of us, tomorrow, so live every day, like it is your last one, it just may be.

[FASTLARRY]

' date='Jun 28 2004, 04:47 AM said:

Yes Tom, God grants none of us, tomorrow, so live every day, like it is your last one, it just may be.

That question was answered on the IPT when several women has some amazing upsets. The guys feared losing to them so much, many flat locked up and choked like dogs. The worst one I was Johnny Archer who played way off his game and let Karen Korr run all over him. He was so angry for letting his emotions defeat him. He vowed that would never happen again.

[The_Woim]

Fast Larry,

From a pro's perspective, how do you think Allison Fisher would match up against any one of the top 20 ranked men? On her own website, she did say she'd be willing to play any man in a one-on-one television match, but that just means she's a really smart gal who knows how to put on a show.

Yours Truly,
The Woim

[FASTLARRY]

The_Woim, on Dec 19 2007, 06:05 PM, said:

Fast Larry,

From a pro's perspective, how do you think Allison Fisher would match up against any one of the top 20 ranked men? On her own website, she did say she'd be willing to play any man in a one-on-one television match, but that just means she's a really smart gal who knows how to put on a show.

Yours Truly,
The Woim

Not only is she a great and well seasoned champion who does not choke much, she is a great potter of the ball. She can beat any man on any given day, if they have a bad day and she gets on a roll. Karen Korr proved that point against Archer in the IPT, so did Greta.

I think if she joined the men's tour she would probably end up ranking about 25th to 30th. She would never win an event because she has the worst break of any pro I have ever seen since Irving Crane.

[The_Woim]

FASTLARRY, on Dec 20 2007, 12:24 AM, said:

Not only is she a great and well seasoned champion who does not choke much, she is a great potter of the ball. She can beat any man on any given day, if they have a bad day and she gets on a roll. Karen Korr proved that point against Archer in the IPT, so did Greta.

I think if she joined the men's tour she would probably end up ranking about 25th to 30th. She would never win an event because she has the worst break of any pro I have ever seen since Irving Crane.

Fast Larry,

I've always said that Allison is beatable, except by herself. Allison never beats herself - I've rarely seen her even make a mistake. Her shot selection is great and she definitely knows when to play a safety - that's what makes her so tough on the WPBA tour. Even with all that, you believe (and so does The Woim) that she would need one of the top guys to make a few errors for her to win.

My opinion only, but the women pro's definitely conduct themselves with a lot of class.

Greta's as cute as a big button on a little girl's dress!

As for Irving Crane's 9 ball break, wasn't he doing that on purpose to change the nature of the game? Because Mr. Crane's 14.1 patterns were so near perfect, if he broke weak and left clusters against a Ronnie Allen type of player that he could negate or counteract the offensive firepower some of these other pro's brought to the table?

Other players would always try to give Mr. Crane advice on his 9-ball break but he always wisely answered them, "There's nothing wrong with my break."

Yours Truly,
The Woim

[FASTLARRY]

The_Woim, on Dec 20 2007, 04:15 PM, said:

Fast Larry,

I've always said that Allison is beatable, except by herself. Allison never beats herself - I've rarely seen her even make a mistake. Her shot selection is great and she definitely knows when to play a safety - that's what makes her so tough on the WPBA tour. Even with all that, you believe (and so does The Woim) that she would need one of the top guys to make a few errors for her to win.

My opinion only, but the women pro's definitely conduct themselves with a lot of class.

Greta's as cute as a big button on a little girl's dress!

As for Irving Crane's 9 ball break, wasn't he doing that on purpose to change the nature of the game? Because Mr. Crane's 14.1 patterns were so near perfect, if he broke weak and left clusters against a Ronnie Allen type of player that he could negate or counteract the offensive firepower some of these other pro's brought to the table?

Other players would always try to give Mr. Crane advice on his 9-ball break but he always wisely answered them, "There's nothing wrong with my break."

Yours Truly,
The Woim

You broke 14.1 soft and when the game moved over to 9 ball many of those old stars broke lousy for years which is how Sigel dominated for a decade, he just out broke all of them until they caught up, like happened to Tiger in golf for a while.

Most of them in time developed a decent break. Crane had a bad leg most did not know about. He, like me, we both had Polio as a kid, both were crippled and both recovered. I recovered much better than he did. He could not drive his weight into the shot so it was all arm and those were small and weak also.

From 10 yrs on my left leg was half the size of my right one from the Polio. I did not recover until late in High School when I finally built it back up. I worked on them so much they actually became quite muscular, 27", from all the running, swimming and weights I was doing. All Crane did was play pool and he stayed weak as I grew strong. I have been totally crippled twice in my life where I spent more than a year in bed unable to walk. That is why I have this fear of Hospitals, I wont go in one unless you carry me in feet first or my momma is dying there. Other than that, I wont come see you.

[FASTLARRY]

FASTLARRY, on Dec 20 2007, 06:00 PM, said:

You broke 14.1 soft and when the game moved over to 9 ball many of those old stars broke lousy for years which is how Sigel dominated for a decade, he just out broke all of them until they caught up, like happened to Tiger in golf for a while.

Most of them in time developed a decent break. Crane had a bad leg most did not know about. He, like me, we both had Polio as a kid, both were crippled and both recovered. I recovered much better than he did. He could not drive his weight into the shot so it was all arm and those were small and weak also. The Polio vaccine was release just a few months after I was stricken, my lousy luck. Breakouts would occur in the summer and the parents would get so scared they would not let the kids go swimming or even out side during one when kids in the hood were coming down. It was like the damn plague during the middle ages, nobody knew what it was, or how you got it, or how to prevent it. We lived in fear of it. Kids got it and lived in an iron lung until they died. When I came down I figured my life was over, thank God mind was a milder case compared to several of my friends who perished. Some were crippled Like FDR and could not walk for life and were in a wheel chair.

From 10 yrs on my left leg was half the size of my right one from the Polio. I did not recover until late in High School when I finally built it back up. I worked on them so much they actually became quite muscular, 27", from all the running, swimming, martial arts training and weights I was doing. For 20 years at night I would have terrible spasms and leg cramps that would wake me up and mess up my sleep. Finally they one day suddenly stopped. I think all the Pinch I was using as medicine at the time killed off the nerve endings or something like that. Maybe killed off the part of my brain that felt pain. They say every shot kills a million brains cells and I have put down 100,000 shots so do the math, no wonder my brain is jello now. You have billions of cells but you can and do kill off sections including memory functions and concentration. Look at any real long term pot head, most can't tell you their zip codes. Same with any real bad drunk.

All Crane did was play pool and he stayed weak as I grew strong. I have been totally crippled twice in my life where I spent more than a year in bed unable to walk. That is why I have this fear of Hospitals, I wont go in one unless you carry me in feet first or my momma is dying there. Other than that, I wont come see you. I'll send flowers and pray for you instead.

[biglouieone]

I hate playing them. It's a no win situation. You catch them in the leagues and they are all sandbagged and expect you to kiss their ***** and give them every break. They play their sexuality at you hard to gain an advantage.

Out of the leagues most that come in a pool hall when its two broads they are on a lizzie date. They dont want to play with you. They want to play with each other in more ways than one. One is always pretty and slim, the chick, and her old man, looks like ralph crandom on the honey mooners, a 180 lbs short haired ######.

Then you get the teenie boopers that some joints let in who are just cruising for free booze or drugs from the guys. Women in pool halls, what a joke.

[BigRigTom]

Simply "YES"!
Women can beat men at pool.

Pool is the perfect sport to someday become a true Co-Ed type competition and if it were promoted that way women would rise to the challenge....unlike tennis, pool would become a level playing field for men and women.

The powers that be have to take away the difference in the rules where the women would be encouraged to raise their game to the same level that men play in order to compete and then the world would see that women can be just as good at pool as men.

That is my opinion!